It is a V-44 pattern made for the US military by multiple manufacturers. This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. We've got Bowie knives of all shapes and sizes at Knife Depot. That was interesting. Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. $110. $77.64, $91.34 : Western USA W49 Wood Bowie Fixed Blade Knife & Sheath c.1984, SPRING HILL CUTLERY (eBay: bargainseller02), Western Boulder, Colo. Cracked Ice Knife & Hatch Set 1935 to 1950, VINTAGE WESTERN R16 USA M FIXED BLADE HUNTING SKINNING BOWIE SURVIVAL KNIFE KNIVES OLD SHEATH, VINTAGE WESTERN 742 STOCKMAN JACK PEN FOLDING POCKET KNIFE KNIVES OLD ANTIQUE, VINTAGE 1983 WESTERN USA W77 G FIXED BLADE COMBAT FIGHTING DIRK DAGGER BOOT KNIFE KNIVES OLD, Vintage MINT Westmark 701 hunting knife and original leather sheath, WESTER CUTLERY CO. GERMANY 2 1/2" 2 BLADE PEARL CONGRESS LIKE NEW, Western Cutlery Germany Bone Congress Knife, WESTERN USA, W36 Fixed Blade Knife and Sheath. Original Price 1,206,897 If you are not familiar with that wood, it is in the same class as white oak. This Auction is for an Authentic Western Boulder U.S.A W49 "M" Bowie Knife w/Wooden Plaque - Circa 1840.1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. Who has the knowledge for this situation? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. thank joe, Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. Because it still seems like an amazing knife. The knife in the box above looks dull due to the original preservative still being on the knife after 40+ years. View Etsys Privacy Policy. Items are guaranteed to be AS DESCRIBED - if there is any problem with your purchase, please contact me - I value your business and want you to be a satisfied customer! It took me about thirty minutes to get halfway through the log. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. You are using an out of date browser. I am trying to decide between the Western, Case, Ontario, or the new Remington. Original Price 2,958,284 Original Price 4,063,793 Original Price 4,205,911 My cousin (who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969) said he saw knives in country with chrome plating to protect them from moisture. Youve done your homework for sure. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. Free shipping on orders $99+. According to Western's 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. Engraved on brass guard CON EVANS and on the other side of guard CHICO. The bowie knife is a legend of the American frontier. I was looking at my W49 last night and there is not a tang stamp. 3.2 3.2 . While the official end of the Vietnam war is April 30 1975 The day the North Vietnamese entered the U.S. Embassy grounds. The online community of knife collectors, A Knife Family Forged in Steel, 1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. I have always thought that the Western Bowie with the bigger handle bolts, thick handle, W49 guard marks and ringed sheath was post Vietnam but then came across this on ebay. Colt revolvers aside, the Bowie knife was the weapon that made the Wild West wild. i have one i bought late 80's i think 60 bucks otd, got it cuase a buddy had one and he loved it. 899,015, 2,997,044 (15% off), Sale Price 2,733,744 Its also home to a whole host of one-of-a-kind items made with love and extraordinary care. Original Price $289.00 (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 Vintage Western folding pocket knife # 51 Made in the USA!!! It should show jungle use. Wow Colonel, that is very special. Charlie, How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. W49, W47, W45 and the W43. United States | English (US) | $ (USD). You could buy it for its charming looks alone, but it performs nearly as well. 2,733,744, 4,205,911 (10% off), Sale Price $148.00 The way you set up your knife photos is inspiring. It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. - They moved to Longmont, CO. in 1978 and continued the alphabet dating code for another 15 years until they were sold at auction to Camillus in 1991. Thanks to Tom Williams who had it in with some old Western documents. 0 CART. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. (50% off), Sale Price 1,912,315 It holds a razor sharp edge and for a knife with a 9 inch blade does a wonderful job. Original Price 7,118,227 I hope that there will be enough detail for me to identify the order of tang and guard stamp introduction on the W49s and other models as well. Below are pictures of the guard: To the best of my knowledge the 4th variant would have the larger pins and would be guard marked similar to the 3rd variant. 1,722,414, 2,460,591 The unique design of the blade gave it its power and its name thanks to James Bowie, a hero of the Alamo gave it its prestige. 1,912,315, 2,249,754 razor sharp and good in the hand. Frequently bought together + Total price: To see our price, add these items to your cart. 4,256,897, 6,978,325 by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:40 pm, Post I'd sure like to find one and would pay good money to acquire it. Original Price 2,249,754 Original Price 4,876,847 Found something you love but want to make it even more uniquely you? It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code . The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. Originally designed by Col. James Bowie, a Bowie knife describes any large sheath knife. (70% off), Sale Price $184.50 $21.96, $31.38 (25% off), Sale Price 1,218,966 They all had really good documentation. $89.17, $297.22 Original Price $149.97 Bowie Knives - Knife Depot Looking for a real knife? However one cant say that such detailed information ever did exist on paper. I was surprised by the thinness of the spine. It's easy! from United States. The jets rip has an easily broken cat guard and a very thick grind not and efficient chopper . I don't consider it to be bad. If the knife has the original leather sheath I expect to see some pretty hard use on that leather. The marking are very important. The "J" on you knife is a date code. The side by side testing I mentioned was chopping through a five inch thick seasoned locust log. By: Westmark Knives Date Added: 02/22/2018 $175.00 Buy Now. Used one for years for yardwork, camping, etc till I discovered machetes. The letters A through O can be seen on their knives depending upon the year of manufacture during the years '77 to '91. Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. But without more evidence to support them the above examples are my recommendation at this time. FREE SHIPPING ON ORDERS OVER $99* & 60-DAY RETURNS. 1,218,966, 2,216,502 Original Price $615.00 As a bowie knife, this was designed for hunting and survival, but as a high-priced Buck knife with a few dozen handle materials to choose from and the option to add a display box and an engraving it makes a pretty stellar gift and display piece. Western started doing this in 1977 and Coleman/Western continued it. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! You must log in or register to reply here. Mine is a coleman with a k stamp on it. The chrome plated ones were in really nice shape other then some chipping to the chrome and handle wear and maybe minor pitting. by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:49 pm, Post Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread, Re: The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread. Buy now. Recently Added Knives by Maker Advanced Search Sell Your Knives. It appears that much was lost during the periods that Western changed hands. The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. The Bowie knife also played a prominent role in western lore. The Bowie knife began as a gift of love from one brother to another, but the weapon proved invaluable in the famous 1827 Sandbar . We've got Bowie knives of all shapes and sizes at Knife Depot. 1,775,148, 4,437,574 Description. I guess I have been lucky over the past 35 years of collecting. I regret not getting one when they were still being made. Very few guys that I can recall actually had theirs. I cut the hilt down took some belly off the blade, had a sheath made and for a total investment of $40.00 got a knife that has served me well. Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. If your really lucky you might come across a presentation piece but that is still not a guarentee that it was in Vietnam. Original Price 6,896,552 Just when you think you have them figured out one turns up that does not fit the mold. (30% off), Sale Price 3,338,731 Even though we were young and we knew every thing. Pics would help to identify the knife. Top Rated Seller. If this is the knife I am thinking of (stacked leather handle with a traditional clip style blade) a friend had one when I was younger and as I recall the knife was darn near impossible to get an edge on. Orsold or pawned to shops in Fayettenam! Original Price $200.00 Typically, orders of $35 USD or more (within the same shop) qualify for free standard shipping from participating Etsy sellers. Charlie, how to identify a Vietnam Western Bowie Fighting Knife, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:43 am, Post Check out completed auctions on the 'Bay for an idea of value. 32.9 un fullered blade has a simple IXL stamp to ricasso and 'CP' mark to surface. A top-end bowie knife that's been around since World War II, the Ka-Bar U.S. Marine Corps Bowie Knife is durable and versatile. All photos were 10 chops. At least none that I can find. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. I used the Forester first, while I was fresh. No chips or cracks in handles. No the one I have is chrome plated. Stories of Cowboys and Indians and shoot-outs at the O.K. W49, W47, W45 and the W43. These two variations appear during the time period of 1964 to at least 1967. Vietnam | English (US) | (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. Have no idea. The other three were heavly pitted from the jungle. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. Ive got WW2 and earlier knives that left the factory chrome plated and most of them look as new or close to it. I hope this helps, Brad? I carry it with me on all my excursions. Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. Western made at least two different stock numbered "bowies" during the Vietnam time period. Original Price 2,460,591 With powerful tools and services, along with expert support and education, we help creative entrepreneurs start, manage, and scale their businesses. You never want to tell a Ranger he can't make a knife. Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. Create an Account Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". $184.50, $615.00 2,955,665, 9,852,217 WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. Original Price 4,733,728 Sold. (40% off), Sale Price $75.30 Is it uncommon to come across a Bowie with that "been there and done that" look? Getting back to the subject of Bowies during the Vietnam time period. The 4th variant also has larger pins. 1,812,130, 7,248,225 Thanks for all the Western Bowie related info, catalog links, etc. Choose the options youd like for the order. This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. (45% off), Sale Price 2,068,966 In 1991 the rights to the Western brand was auctioned to the Camillus Knife Co. . When I see a Vietnam used knife for sale that is in mint condition I usually pass. Great! 2,603,550, 4,733,728 Powered by, Badges | One is the lack of surviving documents from the Western Cutlery Co. . I believe that it provides a fairly accurate chronology of the Western W49 Bowie. How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. I've never had the Bowie, but older Westerns are fantastic knives. They come all sorts of ways. 2,093,350, 4,186,946 Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. $66.55, $121.00 Western W49 Fixed Blade Bowie Survival Knife USA Leather Sheath Vintage: $260.00. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife $29.99 Gil Hibben Assault Tactical Knife With Sheath $77.99 Gil Hibben Highlander Bowie Damascus with Sheath $169.99 $116.98! There are at least 4 more variations in knife markings and wooden handle type from then to 1977 when Western started date coding their knives on the blade. (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 The western being thinner bites better. but it has never failed me. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". It may not display this or other websites correctly. I'm confused. First off let me say this forum appears to be populated by some very knowledgeable people and some impressive knife makers. Chrome is very hard and resist a lot of the normal scratching that would show on other knives. Its story begins in the 1820's when James Bowie was able to defend himself by using a large knife at the Sandbar Fight in Louisiana. $2295 SIGNED WW11 FIGHTING KNIFE. The ones brought home were kept, or given to some relative. $36.50, $121.68 (10% off), Sale Price $22.40 Original Price 9,852,217 here's a pic of the western along side an old trailmaster and recon. Beauregard Prestige Edition Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Land of the Free Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Apollo 13 Bowie Knife $99.95 Details I accept payment in the form of Pay Pal, Credit Card (Online Only), Personl Check and Money Orders. Thanks for the replies, I picked up one. Original Price 3,571,429 MERRY CHRISTMAS! 1,097,291, 1,995,074 That makes it a pretty serious chopper in my book. This practice was continued after Western was sold to the Coleman Co. in 1984 and goes on until 1991. The stamping is only on the Brass guard and there are no letters denoting age. 1,666,256, 3,029,557 Obviously, 1977 on is easy. L Lenka Kuerkov Cool Knives La Forge Lame Film Props Knife Handles Y Yves Tactical Swords Blacksmithing Knives Bowie Knives Original Price 3,448,276 2023 Created by Jan Carter. This pattern is not exclusive to Western although they were the last to mass produce it. It came in handy when I tested a Ontario sp 8 "machete". Craftsmanship . I have a Western Bowie knife that my father gave me years ago. Shipping Discounts Available for Multiple Items Purchased from Sanders Knives: If this item is purchased with another item from Sanders Knives that has a shipping cost of $8.50 or more, standard shipping to US addresses for this item will be discounted to $1.00. Of the five two were chrome plated and three were not. I guess the extra weight of the brass piece on the spine of the blade helps. I Ship Worldwide. 14 5/8 inches overall. (10% off), Sale Price 4,617,980 (70% off). Western started making stainless versions of some of their knives as early as 1967. (30% off), Sale Price 1,183,432 Yea it is an old thread. (45% off), Sale Price 3,386,453 (20% off), Sale Price $66.55 Theres still a lot to uncover about this subject. Original Price 3,029,557 Original Price 1,995,074 They are the older high carbon blades. That helps narrow it down! 1,896,552, 3,448,276 Original Price $150.00 3,338,731, 4,173,456 Damascus Steel: Is My Knife Real or Fake.
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