[/quote] Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? At the Sony Open, Thomas became the youngest player to shoot 59 on the PGA TOUR and broke the TOURs 72-hole scoring record by a stroke. First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. Spin Rate 2,645.8 [/quote] [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] Full details on the new TSR2 and TSR3 here! I think those numbers are a little high. By Handicap, Age & Swingspeed, Should Your Driver Match Your Woods? RocketBladez Tour 4-PW // C-Taper Dear friend, do anyone here user Taylormade RSI 1 Irons. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. 2 were over 320. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. I don't measure my driver distance either. Items sent in without return postage will not be returned. endobj Have a look at his driver and 6 Odyssey Metal X Milled #1. Try a par 3 course (18 holes) of any length and compare your results to your handicap. The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 a higher loft) than the actual degree loft number shown on their club. If I have a front pin with a hard green, I would go at it harder with the shorter club, maybe a 150 yard pitching wedge. But he does not average those. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. [/quote] In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. That's what I think. Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. Get off the elite courses and look at the ones where people are paying maybe $45 to play, not $200+. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. More photos from the event here. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. The AMA has a reported handicap of 14 or 15. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. Am I as good as tour pro? Instead, its mostly situational. It will make it a lot easier to give a qualified answer if we have all the numbers :-). For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? [/quote] This philosophy has been a revelation to me. When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Shaft:Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4-5), TaylorMade P7MC (6-PW) [/quote] My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. I think you wish you hit it further. I almost just quit playing golf because when I started 4 years ago I was playing golf with two people most of the time that were in the 1% of AMAs . Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. Lol, so true.. [/quote] Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Titleist SM5 52-08 & 58-07 S400's Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. My hunch its even bigger for AFA vs AMA? [/quote] The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. [b]XHP 3-Deep (13)- 7.3X @ 43.5 Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. we never play for money. Pasted as rich text. I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. First we have to determine the average length of the par 4s at your course from the different tees available. Carry Distance 302.9 Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. Ive tried lots of different woods shafts and lengths but seem to reach a ceiling on distance. There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. Apex Height 112' 11" Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. 398 were here. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. That's what I think. I think you wish you hit it further. For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). This is the site where we share everything we've learned. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Length is nothing. Your ball speed is a little low which could indicate an off-center strike. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. It's not the length that makes a pro. Obviously not. Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc The one at 3811 spin carried 8.3 yards further. Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. Does that make sense? But then on the next hole when they come back down the hill with the wind behind them, they all go 340. I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? 913 HD beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! Clear editor. But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. I would say probably is bs. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] Since SM6 Vokeys have evolved subtly to be exactly what tour players want. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N 6 0 obj I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. Ball Speed 176.38 I can't seem to find them. [/quote] To me, working on improving distance happens only after theyve advanced beyond the AMA category. Web2/27/2012 Justin Rose COMBINE TEST 1 | TrackMan www.trackman.dk TEST INFO Date:2/27/2012 Name:Justin Rose DOB:7/30/1980 Hcp:+5 Mode:Outdoor Location:Lake Nona Temp:78 F Wind:0-5mph Notes: TOTAL SCORE Driver Statistics (avg.) The average drive on tour last year was 289 yards. Mack Made Custom Blade. These 23 heads are available in three finishes: Jet Black, Tour Chrome and Brushed Steel. Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. Thanks. How to gain more distance without swinging faster? Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] I hit the same. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. I appreciate that. #TeamTrackMan No question - 100%. They were consistently breaking 80 if not the mid 70s and almost every time hit their drives relatively straight and 275 to over 300 yards without a problem and doing it from the blue or blacks . Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] The facts are in front of us at instructors, now we must help convey your points to the masses. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. I then picked up the lob wedge, historically as a two wedge player I need high versatility with this club as it is 6 degrees more lofted than my 52. I don't measure my driver distance. On average PGA pros hit a 3-iron a carry distance the distance from strike to point of ground impact of 217 yards. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. I shared the dispersion plot with our local club committee who are thinking of installing trackman after redeveloping several holes, and was asked questions along these lines: 1. The trend right now with wedge play for all manufacturers is lowering the ball flight on the full shots. [quote name='Hamish777' timestamp='1364356541' post='6704153'] If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Justin is that really you?? A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. I would guess those numbers are pretty much all-out, perfect contact, carry distances. I feel pretty confidant in saying that those aren't his stoc How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? Just would be interesting to see. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. It was not until I got together with almost every other golfer played and realized most like as in 90% were just like me which was a work in progress. Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. Im wondering if there are outliers here?. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] That's my opinion at least. Unless of course it's short enough to hit the 3 wood or driver at the green. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. Thomas is also only 1 of 6 players in PGA Tour history with 15 victories and 2 Majors before his 30th birthday, joining Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Blue 7 X, 3-wood: Callaway Rogue ST Max (15 degrees) <> [/quote] Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. Thanks for posting. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high I recently had my swing analyzed and would like to share the results so that maybe someone could explain this in simpler terms. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. Top 50 Pros Analysis. This put him near the bottom of the pack. Ball Speed 176.38 So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s Well, they say that If you practice more and more youll get better and better. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. [/quote] I feel like Seve in the sand these days which is never a bad thing. [/color] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. It's a pretty common way to play the game and it helps the scoring aspect of your game tremendously. As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. Taylormade Spider X Chalk SS. A Step by Step Guide, Acceleration Graph of Hips, Chest, Arms, and Clubhead in a Pro Golf Swing. There are golfers out there who are scratch only hitting the ball 200-250. Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! It takes a detailed plan and it takes time, and this is why I think the improvement of AMAs isnt as impressive as it could be. Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) [b]Tiger Woods[/b] The SMs have been nurtured and feel just beautiful at impact, the GW is super consistent with full shots and the chip and run. [/quote] Dear Claeys, We highly recommend you to visit a TrackMan coach or fitter close to you, as there are many individual aspects to your question. Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 Despite the slight changes SM9 still looks very much like a Vokey should and thats what I like about these heads. 714 AP2 4-p I spent a year playing by myself getting lessons finding a swing and just focused on having fun. Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). Whats the proportion of shots wide of the mark by say 80 feet or more (or some width for which there is data) 2. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Can i play a pro v1, or a harder ball I wont more distance KIND regards Rene Claeys Ren. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. When it comes to how far the pros hit a 3 wood and the other longer clubs in the bag including their hybrids the distance analysis gets a bit more complicated because clearly the pros are starting to use these clubs for a wider variety type of shots than they do for their driver. [/quote] [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club.
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