); Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people. It does matter who you are. Isaiah 14:1 For YAHUAH will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel (in the end it will still be about Israel), and set them in their own land: and the strangers (Gentiles) shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave (cling) to the house of Jacob (not separated from them). Salvation is for Israel and only Israel no other peoples have the Most Highs compassion. Report. Join our Patreon membership here One of the favorite claims of many of the Hebrew Israelites is that the white humans are Edomites. If you want to receive updates from us, signup below. I dont remember saying salvation is only for Israel. Please forgive me for sending so many messages. And for those on the path of Jacob God's encouraging word is, "Look up and rejoice, for your salvation is guaranteed". False. Verse 17: "In Mount Zion there shall be those that escape, and it shall be holy." There was also a legal problem with Zionism that must be understood. John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. Originally published in Tabletalk, our daily Bible study magazine. And your mighty men shall be dismayed, O Teman, so that every man from Mount Esau will be cut off by slaughter." Does this mean that Esau can get into the Kingdom to serve but will then rebel? This shows us that there is a distinction between the church visible, which contains both true and false believers, and the church invisible, which contains true believers only. Now clinging to these people? Revelation says that even in the Kingdom Satan will be loosed for a time and that the nations will war against Israel. No one comes to God with true repentance in their heart unless . Can edomites. However, you have to cling to them. Third, God abominates pride and will bring it down. First, God rules in this world right now and turns the course of nations and history as he pleases. The year 1948 started our detour around Edom in the history of the Kingdom. WHO WILL BE SAVED? Yet in the end, the prophecy that the older will serve the younger (Gen. 25:23) would be fulfilled. 19:11). With it went the Birthright Name, Israel, identifying Esau as the one to whom God had given the Birthright. Esau is an example of one who was a member of the church visible but not the church invisible. You cannot join yourself to YAHUAH and separate yourself from his people! Shalom Yisrael, I have an important question and I am a bit distraught over this. So Mr Gentile, your salvation is not of your own. Although no name of an Edomite deity is given in the Bible . For the LORD has a sacrifice in Bozrah, a great slaughter in the land of Edom. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 12:17). So he goes to a parachute school, and they show him . Its been rough thinking about all this, Yes you must keep the commandments brother and everything God or drained for us back when we were brought out of Egypt the only thing we dont do is keep the law statutes since were in a different land we must respect the king of the land but Gods 10 commandments, circumcision law, and baptism, and feast days must be kept still, Revelation 22:14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city., 1 John 5:3For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous., 1 John 2:3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments., Romans 3:29Is he the God of the Jews only? . God Himself will sort out these claims, give everyone his due, and adjudicate the case with perfect justice. (OBADIAH) 1:10. Let's suppose a man wants to learn how to parachute. "For my sword has drunk its fill in the heavens; behold, it descends for judgment upon Edom, upon the people I have doomed. 23:7, God said, You shall not detest an Edomite, for he is your brother.. Answer: The Europeans: made up of the sons of Japheth & the sons of the unknown ancient nation; as for the Ishmaelites/Arabs YHUH has a purpose for them too in 2 Esdras 15, for they are the sons of Ishmael and you know what the book of Genesis says about them. Now turn north. We know because Jesus prophesied it. Be honest about your need for repentance. Psalm 76:7). He allowed the white mayenne they eat mites to rise and take over the Earth.He allowed them to steal the negros identity so that we would be pushed to jealousy And return Back to the father. Saviors shall go up to Mount Zion to rule Mount Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's. It is important for us to recognize what God is doing, and why, for then we can rest in His wisdom and marvel at His justice which is dispensed equally to all men. Answer. The word Edom in Hebrew means "red.". The Jews as a whole did not repent in this manner in the years leading up to 1948, and so their return was not done in a lawful way that might procure Gods blessing. In other words, Jacob would have to give back the Birthright to Esau in order to allow Esau time to prove himself unworthy as a hated son. The law protected hated sons from being disinherited without cause (Deut. Obadiah 1:18And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble,and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau;for YAHUAH hath spoken it. Let's read the book together, making some explanatory observations along the way. We actually did a teaching on the virgin birth. On the day that you stood aloof, on the day that strangers carried off his wealth, and foreigners entered his gates, and cast lots for Jerusalem, you were like one of them. 1.Pride - I am wealthy , intelligent . It has again brought forth leaves, but Jesus said it will not bear fruit. If we choose in our pride to live without God, then he will grant us our independence in the day of the Lord. On the East of the `Arabah the northern border ran from the Dead Sea, and was marked by Wady el-Kurachi, or Wady el-Chasa. The Dynamic Living Cellular Earth Electromagnetic Biosphere Containment System Is Powered By And Flowing With SPIRITUAL ENERGY Generated Electromagnetic POWER Fields That's Known As *FREE ENERGY* And Angelically Tuned Giant Magnetic Lode Stones Including Different Resonant Crystalline S-TONES/Serpentine Energy Vibratory Stones Made From Gods knows everything before it happens. It soothes our inadequacies and magnifies our successes. Read the text. It was common in those days to treat other nations as if they had no right to exist. Zion, the city of God, shall be holy because it will be filled not with people who never sinned, but with people who have been broken and humbled by their sin and have thrown themselves for mercy on Jesus and have come to love him more than anything and any person in the world, because "he loved us and gave himself for us. ), after having slain nearly 10,000 Edomites. Daniel acknowledged both sin and guilt, which had been incurred in two waysfirst by disobedience to the Law of Moses, and secondly by disobedience to the prophets who came after Moses. Daniel's detailed prayer can be divided into two portions. In todays passage, we find the author using this technique once again. That is, it had a show of righteousness, but did not bear the fruit that God required in the three-year time of visitation. Their capital was Bozrah, which sat in the northern part of their territory. Verses 15 and 16, "For the day of the Lord is near upon all the nations. And that warning is "Wake up and repent before it's too late". But he answered her not a word (because she was a Gentile). Isaiah 40:17 All nations (Gentiles) before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity. We don't know anything about the author's background. Pride distorts every area of thought and life. John Owen tells us that Esau is a clear example of the truth that no one knows where deliberate sin may lead. Unrepentant, deliberate sin should cause us to question whether we are saved at all. We begin now with the second chapter of Deuteronomy, which continues Moses first speech. IUIC doesnt say theres any hope at all for us. Verse 4: "Though you soar aloft like the eagle, though your nest is set among the stars, thence I will bring you down, says the Lord." Esau became the father of the Edomites and other nations, including Amalek. The former pastoral city of Bozrah in Edom is now a ruin on the plain southeast of the Dead Sea. After reminding Israel of the failure of their first attempt to enter the Promised Land, he immediately jumps ahead to speak oftheir second entry. As you have done, it shall be done to you, your deeds shall return on your own head. Are you not reading any precepts shown on this page? The rights of the hated son could not protect him from the law after he proved himself to be rebellious and unrepentant. A commentary on the first speech of Moses in Deuteronomy 1-4. Im also amazed at the story of Rahab. The Sages said that no war can be won unless descendants of Esau are present on the winning side. The near future and the distant future merge in the prophet's vision. In conclusion now, let me draw out five brief lessons which will affect the way we live. Salvation is only for Israel. The book of Jubilees 26:34 says this:And by thy sword wilt thou live,And thou wilt serve thy brother.And it shall come to pass when thou becomest great,And dost shake his yoke from off thy neck,Thou wilt sin a complete sin unto death,And thy seed will be rooted out from under heaven.. 2:4-7. 3. to remember with self-reproach or contrition: to repent one's angry words. How Esau has been pillaged, his treasures sought out!" Obadiah is the shortest Old Testament book (21 verses). Jerusalem will be destroyed in such a way that she will never again be repaired or rebuilt (Jer. Isa 56:6 Isa 56:8Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to YAHUAH, to serve him, and to love the name of YAHUAH, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer:their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people. Galatians 3:28even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. YAH FORBID. There are many today who hate Jewsand Zionists in particularon the grounds that they are Edomites. Follow. Who can tell if Elohiym will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? Esau has thus received his due, conquering the land of Palestine according to his desire (Mal. . Salvation is not only for Israel but the entire world. In the womb, Esau and Jacob struggled together, and God told their mother, Rebekah, that they would become two nations, with the older one serving the younger ( Genesis 25:23 ). 2:29). Edom relished the destruction of Judah, stood aloof, gloated, boasted, looted, and cut off the stragglers. To repent is to admit that you are guilty, to show sincere regret. In the twentieth century, a new political movement arose called Zionism. New International Version (NIV) Subscribe. Im still amazed that we Edomites have a chance at all (also, please forgive my profile picture, I changed it on my google account but it doesnt show that I have my head covered now, this picture is shameful to me now). And he will not be our refuge or our righteousness in that day. Jacob pretended to be Esau in order to obtain the Birthright by deceit; and so in the end, Esau has regained the Birthright by pretending to be Jacob-Israel. A descendant of Esau, who was born red and hairy. Meanwhile, we are to be careful to give all men equal justice in order to prove ourselves as worthy sons of God. However, this passage is not teaching that those with true faith can lose their salvation. Oh thank you so much for this. Isa 56:6 Isa 56:8Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to YAHUAH, to serve him, and to love the name of YAHUAH, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.YAHUAH ELOHIYM which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith,Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him. Edom dwells in security on their mountain Israel is scattered and in exile Edom has plundered Jerusalem But when the Lord has His day: Edom will be brought down from Mount Sier ( Ob 4) Israel will be gathered back to her land ( Ob 19-20) Edom will be plundered ( Ob 6) Edom may seem to have won, but the Lord prevails in the end. Many in the Church assumed that the Jews were both Judah and Israel and so they mistook Zionism for the fulfillment of prophecies of Israels regathering. Gods instructions to Moses in regard to Edom are applicable to us today as well. Then we will ask what lessons are here for our life as Christians. We are only able to do what we do because of your support. The Amalekite genocide John Allister | 12 August, 2013 One of the standard ways that the New Atheists attack Christianity is by using some of the Old Testament war passages to argue that God is violent and petty. 7 Days. As the Hebrews wandered throughout the Sinai Desert on their way to what would become their home in Canaan, they had to pass through Edom. It is not unrighteous with God that he made one vessel to honour and 1 vessel to dishonour. Romans 11:18 Boast not against the branches. Tiempo: 32:50 Subido 24/04 a las 14:53:18 34898576 Nations, adults, and little children have this in common: apart from the grace of God we all tend to derive pleasure from another person's failure. We ought to adopt God's attitude toward Edom, rather than to return hatred for hatred. If I dont follow the commandments it wont matter even if I do? Isaiah is the most referenced Old Testament book in the New Testament, with approximately 100 citations and 500 allusions. Repenting is like pleading guilty to God. Ive been struggling lately with the idea that because Im from the line esau that I have no shot at the kingdom that is to come. And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it; If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them. "But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." ( Matthew 6:33) Live Changed. No. Like their father Esau , the father of the Edomites, cannot find repentance and therefore an Edomite or Read more By ljthriepland, 5 years ago And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to the promise" (Galatians 3:28, 29). I ask so can edomite be saved? We are a doomed people because of what our forefathers and ancestrial people were commissioned to do. Shalum Glynn. Obadiah clearly predicted Edom's destruction ( Obadiah 1:1, 8 ), and the prophecy offers a list of specific reasons for God's impending judgment: - Their heart of pride: "The pride of your heart has deceived you" ( Obadiah 1:3 ). I am an Edomite woman as well and want to do everything I can to follow Yahuah and his laws and commandments in repentance. Please watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TcP74Hsbhg. Yes, of the Gentiles also:, Romans 2:9-10Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:. From our New Testament perspective we can see how much larger the fulfillment will be than Obadiah saw. We know because the law of the rebellious son is linked to the law of the hated son. For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. And the house of Jacob shall possess their own possessions. Verse 1: "The vision of Obadiah. ), as virtually all historians know. Can one person really be saved out a nation so evil? Seek God. Antipater the Idumaean, the progenitor of the Herodian Dynasty that ruled Judea after the Roman conquest, was of Edomite origin. Though we know that those with true faith cannot lose their salvation (1 John 2:19), we must never think that we can ignore this warning given to the church visible. Get Bible verse every day in your inbox. So your the Gentile salvation is incidental and dependent on the salvation of Israel. That is why there were Gentiles who left Egypt with the children of Israel, but barely any mention was made of them. Can Edomites Repent??? ", John Piper is founder and teacher of desiringGod.org and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary. In chapter 11, we were exhorted to imitate the persevering faith of the old covenant saints so that we might inherit all of Gods blessings. We are not talking about an albino twin, but according to the theory, Esau was . And he prayed unto YAHUAH, and said, I pray thee, O YAHUAH, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? They are not saved on their own as a people, but their salvation is tied to that of the nation of Israel. And God reveals to Obadiah that he will not let this sin go unpunished. No Christian should have the jitters that the world is careening out of control toward a meaningless catastrophe. It has been rebuilt. Your email address will not be published. What shall we say then? 1.b. God forbid. I live with an Israelite who says that we Edomites have no hope, and I love Yahuah so much and I love the Israelites so much that I even serve my daughter, who is of the tribe of Benjamin because her fathers father was from Jamaica. Joel 2:13And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto YAHUAH your Elohiym: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil. Eagle Edom will come down because of her pride and violence. Most Searched. But this is because the Edomites were prominent among the nations around Israel that hated Israel. ButGod called them your brothers the sons of Esau. Later, in Deut. One of the favourite passages for this is the so-called Amalekite Genocide of 1 Samuel 15. They also claim that Edomites. Then God himself addresses Edom directly in verses 216. There is no Jew or gentile, all are one in Christ. repent 1. The region has much reddish sandstone, which may have given rise to the name.The nation's name in Assyrian was Udumi; in Greek, (Idoumaa); in Latin, Iduma or Idumea.The Edomite people were a Semitic-speaking tribal group inhabiting the Negev Desert . A Curiosity: Esau was associated with military prowess. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. Pride makes us think we are independent, self-sufficient, invulnerable. Judas Maccabeus conquered their territory for a time in around 163 BCE. Im one of the fortunate few Edomites that wasnt raised around their own kind, so I have a head start there since I dont really know my own people and their ways actually are strange and off-putting to me. Of course, Ed. Edom (, m, "red") was a nation in the southern Levant from the eleventh century B.C.E until Roman times. Therefore now, O YAHUAH, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live. The Gentile salvation is like me going to bring lunch to my son at school and bringing some for my childs friends who have asked. And dont forget, you can easily be cut off again. Here are five vital steps. 6 You shall buy food from them with money so that you may eat, and you shall also purchase water from them with money so that you may drink. But it also says that Esau will serve his brother which hasnt happened yet. In other words, the ruin that God will bring upon Edom will be total, not like a thief or a grape gatherer who always leaves something. Copyright 2002-2023 Got Questions Ministries. For your violence against your brother Jacob shame shall cover you, and you shall be cut off forever. That's the end of part one: verses 116. Surrounded by deep ravines amid the rugged highlands of southern Jordan, the steep-sided "rock" of es-Sela may be where King Amaziah of Judah slaughtered 10,000 Edomites.. If you feel led to support this ministry, we deeply appreciate it, All orders from the GKM Store will not be shipped out until March 10th, 2023 God's Kingdom Ministries. For we too are a part of the church visible, and we demonstrate that we are of the church invisible as well if we heed these warnings. The main point of the prophecy seems to be that God's oppressed people should take courage because God is still the righteous Master of the universe: wrongs will be righted through judgment, and the Judge of all the earth shall rule openly someday with all his people in safety forever. Those of the Negeb shall possess Mount Esau, and those of the Shephelah the land of the Philistines; they shall possess the land of Ephraim and the land of Samaria and Benjamin shall possess Gilead. Paul says in Romans 4:13 that the descendants of Abraham will inherit the world, not just a near eastern territory of Palestine. OUTLINE Only one chapter List of Edom's transgressions v1-v14 Judgement for Edom's transgressionv15-v18 Restoration of Israel v19 - v21 CONTEXT: Israel was under under Judgement and babylonians plundered Israel. Of course, Edom refers to Esau, so Edomites are the descendants of Esau. (By the way, this was not originally addressed to you, but was from a Facebook post I previously made). repent: [verb] to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life. In this list, Bozrah and Teman are mentioned with other towns such as Avith, Rehoboth Hanahar, Masrekah, and Pau, about which nothing is known from the Bible or from other . What is the best way to cling to the Nation of Israel? They are the most despised people of the earth, persecuted, ridiculed, rejected whom almost all nations have abused. N otice two (of three) square free-standing tombs on the right. Esau Was Red-Haired? I guess my hope is like Rahab. . Ninevah was the capital city of: Assyria. When a person is in the bondage of pride, he takes whatever opportunity he can to exalt himself over others. - Their violent acts against Israel: "Because of the violence done to your brother Jacob, shame . (By the way, if you change your mind about what you are doing, your actions will follow.) Transliteration: hamartolosPronunciation: ham-ar-to-losDefinition: From G264; sinful that is a sinner: sinful sinner. Someone who The Most High hates as stated in Malachi 1:3 and Romans 9:13. . We need to come to recognize that God's mind and thoughts are truly higher (and better) than ours. Their hatred of Israel was kind of ironic, because the Edomites were descended from Esau, the brother of Jacob, who later became Israel. Even as late as verse 24, Saul is still hedging. Isa 56:6 Isa 56:7 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to YAHUAH, to serve him, and to love the name of YAHUAH, to be his servants, every one that KEEPETH THE SABBATH from polluting it, and TAKETH HOLD OF MY COVENANT (law done away with?
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